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		<title>By: Grand Text Auto &#187; Expressive Processing Arrives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand Text Auto &#187; Expressive Processing Arrives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] book includes an extensive set of notes and revisions arising from community comments during the blog-based peer review the manuscript had last year on Grand Text Auto. My sincere thanks, again, to those who shared [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Expressive Processing Arrives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expressive Processing Arrives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] book includes an extensive set of notes and revisions arising from community comments during the blog-based peer review the manuscript had last year on Grand Text Auto. My sincere thanks, again, to those who shared [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Introducing Marginalia &#124; JISCPress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Introducing Marginalia &#124; JISCPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CommentPress is already popular in Higher Education for the critique of texts by students, the open peer-review of manuscripts, the peer-review of published books and to solicit comment on Institutions&#8217; policy documents. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CommentPress is already popular in Higher Education for the critique of texts by students, the open peer-review of manuscripts, the peer-review of published books and to solicit comment on Institutions&#8217; policy documents. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Floppy Hat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Peer Review</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-500070</link>
		<dc:creator>The Floppy Hat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Peer Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we need someone to step out on a limb, put a manuscript up using the proper backend (such as the example Bryan linked to), and see what happens. Perhaps later this year when Google Wave releases someone [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hevel.org: A Chasing after Wind &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An experiment in &#8220;open peer review&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hevel.org: A Chasing after Wind &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An experiment in &#8220;open peer review&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the if:book blog, you should definitely check out this post by Noah Wardrip-Fruin about his experiment with open peer review of an academic manuscript via blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Examples of Collaborative Digital Humanities Projects &#171; Digital Scholarship in the Humanities</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-498375</link>
		<dc:creator>Examples of Collaborative Digital Humanities Projects &#171; Digital Scholarship in the Humanities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] get a sense of the book’s overall arguments when they were reading only fragments, Wardrip-Fruin found many benefits to this open approach to peer review: he could engage in conversation with his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Legal Scholarship &#38; the New Media &#171; Legal Informatics Blog</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-494360</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Scholarship &#38; the New Media &#171; Legal Informatics Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  In response to an interesting discussion on the LIBLICENSE listserv of Prof. Wardrip-Fruin&#8217;s Blog-Based Peer Review: Four Surprises and discussion of that article on the Chronicle of Higher Education&#8217;s Wired Campus blog, I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Week in Review at The Emerging Scholars Blog</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-493829</link>
		<dc:creator>Week in Review at The Emerging Scholars Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 11:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blog-Based Peer Review &#8212; Noah Wardrip-Fruin allowed his book to be part of an experiment comparing traditional peer review with chapter-by-chapter review on his blog, Grand Text Auto. Here, he shares his experience and findings. For example, traditional peer review was better at following the overall argument of the book and comparing one section with another, but the blog comments were much more detailed and collaborative (e.g. commenters would affirm, correct, and nuance criticisms from others). Related posts (automatically generated):Week in Review (Updated) [Editor&#039;s note: This is a new weekly feature from your...Week in Review [Editor&#039;s note: This is a new weekly feature from your... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blog-Based Peer Review &#8212; Noah Wardrip-Fruin allowed his book to be part of an experiment comparing traditional peer review with chapter-by-chapter review on his blog, Grand Text Auto. Here, he shares his experience and findings. For example, traditional peer review was better at following the overall argument of the book and comparing one section with another, but the blog comments were much more detailed and collaborative (e.g. commenters would affirm, correct, and nuance criticisms from others). Related posts (automatically generated):Week in Review (Updated) [Editor's note: This is a new weekly feature from your...Week in Review [Editor's note: This is a new weekly feature from your... [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RodeWorks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Academic Peer Review via a Blog</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-492816</link>
		<dc:creator>RodeWorks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Academic Peer Review via a Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] text commenting plug-in (the new 2.x version is out).  Well the experiment is over and he posts his reactions on his Grandtextauto site.  In short he finds benefits both from the traditional process and the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Noah Wardrip-Fruin</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-492131</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Wardrip-Fruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I haven&#039;t been very involved in &quot;future of the academy&quot; debates, I suspect you&#039;re correct that there&#039;s a strong connection here. I understand there has been quite a bit of discussion about thinking of the PhD as something that prepares people for a variety of careers, not just for being a professor, but at least in some disciplines (e.g., in the humanities) students sometimes feel frustrated that the form of the dissertation remains a hyper-specialized one (in many departments) that prepares students for only one kind of post-graduation work. 

I know many PhD students blog, and attempt to engage a wider audience, so maybe a certain pre-dissertation move away from hyper-specialization is already happening. On the other hand, it&#039;s quite risky for grad students (and the untenured) to put significant effort into activities considered marginal by their field&#039;s mainstream. I&#039;ll be interested to see how this evolves (and what I can do to support the experimentally-minded).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I haven&#8217;t been very involved in &#8220;future of the academy&#8221; debates, I suspect you&#8217;re correct that there&#8217;s a strong connection here. I understand there has been quite a bit of discussion about thinking of the PhD as something that prepares people for a variety of careers, not just for being a professor, but at least in some disciplines (e.g., in the humanities) students sometimes feel frustrated that the form of the dissertation remains a hyper-specialized one (in many departments) that prepares students for only one kind of post-graduation work. </p>
<p>I know many PhD students blog, and attempt to engage a wider audience, so maybe a certain pre-dissertation move away from hyper-specialization is already happening. On the other hand, it&#8217;s quite risky for grad students (and the untenured) to put significant effort into activities considered marginal by their field&#8217;s mainstream. I&#8217;ll be interested to see how this evolves (and what I can do to support the experimentally-minded).</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Wardrip-Fruin</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-492127</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Wardrip-Fruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this project was about peer review, but I&#039;m also interested in doing academic work &quot;in public&quot; in a variety of ways. For example, I currently have a number of conference abstracts in submission. If any are accepted, I plan to post them publicly, to get feedback and spark conversation, before writing the full papers. That&#039;s a little closer to posting an outline before a book is written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this project was about peer review, but I&#8217;m also interested in doing academic work &#8220;in public&#8221; in a variety of ways. For example, I currently have a number of conference abstracts in submission. If any are accepted, I plan to post them publicly, to get feedback and spark conversation, before writing the full papers. That&#8217;s a little closer to posting an outline before a book is written.</p>
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		<title>By: teaching carnival &#171; Bethany Nowviskie</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-492001</link>
		<dc:creator>teaching carnival &#171; Bethany Nowviskie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] similar lines, Noah Wardrip-Fruin shares four surprises at the end of his year-long experiment in blog-based peer review. Meanwhile, a &#8220;three-member [...]</description>
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		<title>By: P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An experiment in open blog-based peer review</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-491437</link>
		<dc:creator>P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An experiment in open blog-based peer review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 11:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read a the story here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: High Ed Cafe&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog vs. Peer Review Final Report: Lessons Learned</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-491341</link>
		<dc:creator>High Ed Cafe&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog vs. Peer Review Final Report: Lessons Learned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 03:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of a popular blog to which he contributes peer review the book in public. This week he shared his final conclusions about the strengths and weaknesses of his unusual [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Permission Publishing with Students &#171;</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-491263</link>
		<dc:creator>Permission Publishing with Students &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent research paper about &#8216;blogs&#8217; verses &#8216;peer review&#8217;, Wardrip-Fruin (2009) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blog vs. Peer Review Final Report: Lessons Learned &#171; iThinkEducation.net!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog vs. Peer Review Final Report: Lessons Learned &#171; iThinkEducation.net!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Nielsen &#187; Biweekly links for 05/15/2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Nielsen &#187; Biweekly links for 05/15/2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 10:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark J. Nelson</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-490636</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark J. Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting towards the edge of topics specifically about peer review, but I wonder to what extent these sorts of concerns are part of a partial reversal of the trend towards academic specialization? Many of the forces pushing for it still hold, like the publishing treadmill and academic promotion. But one major force, the need to have some way to manage the flood of publications, is significantly different: it was previously done almost exclusively by hierarchically subdividing fields of knowledge into ever-slimmer niches, but now frequently done by just applying more sophisticated retrieval mechanisms to flat fields of knowledge. I mean, tools like Google Scholar and Google Books don&#039;t even support respecting accepted discipline boundaries if you wanted to, seeing the academic landscape as just one flat bag of PDFs.

Maybe a change in who peer reviews a book is just one particular kind of change in audience positioning, insofar as the peer reviewers are supposed to be knowledgeable representatives of the intended audience? I suppose that might make an author&#039;s job harder: everyone now has to be right about all fields they discuss, because once someone finds your stuff, the defense that it &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/24/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wasn&#039;t intended for them&lt;/a&gt; doesn&#039;t work that well. But it might be a good thing, nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting towards the edge of topics specifically about peer review, but I wonder to what extent these sorts of concerns are part of a partial reversal of the trend towards academic specialization? Many of the forces pushing for it still hold, like the publishing treadmill and academic promotion. But one major force, the need to have some way to manage the flood of publications, is significantly different: it was previously done almost exclusively by hierarchically subdividing fields of knowledge into ever-slimmer niches, but now frequently done by just applying more sophisticated retrieval mechanisms to flat fields of knowledge. I mean, tools like Google Scholar and Google Books don&#8217;t even support respecting accepted discipline boundaries if you wanted to, seeing the academic landscape as just one flat bag of PDFs.</p>
<p>Maybe a change in who peer reviews a book is just one particular kind of change in audience positioning, insofar as the peer reviewers are supposed to be knowledgeable representatives of the intended audience? I suppose that might make an author&#8217;s job harder: everyone now has to be right about all fields they discuss, because once someone finds your stuff, the defense that it <a HREF="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/24/" rel="nofollow">wasn&#8217;t intended for them</a> doesn&#8217;t work that well. But it might be a good thing, nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: bowerbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowerbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was talking about
inviting feedback at
the very beginning,
when you have just
composed the outline,
and nothing more...

feedback that will
continue throughout
the writing process.

but i now recall that
you were specifically
interested in reviews
that occurred along
a track parallel to
peer review, which
is always done when
the writing is &quot;done&quot;.

-bowerbird</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was talking about<br />
inviting feedback at<br />
the very beginning,<br />
when you have just<br />
composed the outline,<br />
and nothing more&#8230;</p>
<p>feedback that will<br />
continue throughout<br />
the writing process.</p>
<p>but i now recall that<br />
you were specifically<br />
interested in reviews<br />
that occurred along<br />
a track parallel to<br />
peer review, which<br />
is always done when<br />
the writing is &#8220;done&#8221;.</p>
<p>-bowerbird</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Wardrip-Fruin</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-490208</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Wardrip-Fruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think some wider view, to go along with the section-by-section posting, would be helpful. I guess the question is how detailed such an outline should be. A high-level outline can tell people how far along we are, but it can&#039;t answer questions like, &quot;Will this example return later?&quot; (Which people sometimes answer, on paper, by flipping ahead or using the index.) There&#039;s lots of room to experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think some wider view, to go along with the section-by-section posting, would be helpful. I guess the question is how detailed such an outline should be. A high-level outline can tell people how far along we are, but it can&#8217;t answer questions like, &#8220;Will this example return later?&#8221; (Which people sometimes answer, on paper, by flipping ahead or using the index.) There&#8217;s lots of room to experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: bowerbird</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-490203</link>
		<dc:creator>bowerbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you solve
this problem with
a different approach.

start by giving people
the book&#039;s _outline_,
so they understand
the whole picture...

then flesh it out...

-bowerbird</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you solve<br />
this problem with<br />
a different approach.</p>
<p>start by giving people<br />
the book&#8217;s _outline_,<br />
so they understand<br />
the whole picture&#8230;</p>
<p>then flesh it out&#8230;</p>
<p>-bowerbird</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Wardrip-Fruin</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-490197</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Wardrip-Fruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I think that&#039;s absolutely right. I had considered that it&#039;s increasingly easy to read books selectively now -- but I hadn&#039;t thought of the potentially-much-wider group that would be doing so for any individual title. 

To me this implies that the GTxA peer review experiment was successful not only for the reasons I identified (e.g., a community and a reputation for the blog) but also because it was friendly to some of the near-real-time ways that a wider group of people select things to read on topics that interest them (e.g., Google alerts). 

So, as we think about the future of peer review, it may not only be necessary to design approaches that perform review of individual sections/examples, but also ones that draw in as many of the potentially-interested communities as possible during the time of the review. Even though it wasn&#039;t conceived with the second of these in mind, the blog-based review form responds to both of these, which makes me hopeful that others will experiment with it (or related forms) in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I think that&#8217;s absolutely right. I had considered that it&#8217;s increasingly easy to read books selectively now &#8212; but I hadn&#8217;t thought of the potentially-much-wider group that would be doing so for any individual title. </p>
<p>To me this implies that the GTxA peer review experiment was successful not only for the reasons I identified (e.g., a community and a reputation for the blog) but also because it was friendly to some of the near-real-time ways that a wider group of people select things to read on topics that interest them (e.g., Google alerts). </p>
<p>So, as we think about the future of peer review, it may not only be necessary to design approaches that perform review of individual sections/examples, but also ones that draw in as many of the potentially-interested communities as possible during the time of the review. Even though it wasn&#8217;t conceived with the second of these in mind, the blog-based review form responds to both of these, which makes me hopeful that others will experiment with it (or related forms) in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark J. Nelson</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2009/05/12/blog-based-peer-review-four-surprises/comment-page-1/#comment-489987</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark J. Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this particular concern---that books must hold up not only as unitary, sustained works, but also when they&#039;re diced up---is going to get very pressing with easily-searchable books like what Google Books provides. It&#039;s now very easy for me, when writing a paper on, say, The Sims, to read almost every academic mention of The Sims---even ones that last a single paragraph, never mind a chapter.

I think it then becomes more important for those discussions to all be accurate, even avoiding errors that don&#039;t impact the book&#039;s own argument, because the authority of the author of the book will be cited for these individual propositions within the book. Previously any errors might be buried in a book that wasn&#039;t even on the subject: maybe it&#039;s not so important that a Sims example be exactly right in a book on architecture that just uses it as a passing illustration, so long as it&#039;s right in the ways that are relevant for its use as an architecture example. But now it has to be right enough for the game-studies and AI audiences, too, since any errors will be more likely to be read by the audience you didn&#039;t expect, either damaging the overall academic literature and debate as misinformation gets repeated, damaging the author&#039;s reputation if it&#039;s exposed as misinformation, or both. In fact, I recall your book itself exposed several such wrong-in-the-details examples from other authors&#039; writing, of various levels of severity.

And I think, as you discuss, it&#039;s hard to get that sort of cross-cutting feedback from traditional peer review, whether in journals, books, or conferences, because you would need too many reviewers (in your case, an expert on every system discussed, game-studies and digital-humanities experts, AI experts, game designers, etc.). So this is one model for how to get the details right--- expose it to everyone, and hope people who know about the details point out problems before the book goes to press. I think there&#039;s a good chance they will in many cases, at least if the authors themselves are alive and reachable: many people have a strong interest in learning how their work is being discussed by others, and would appreciate the opportunity to make corrections or clarifications before something that misrepresents their work gets published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this particular concern&#8212;that books must hold up not only as unitary, sustained works, but also when they&#8217;re diced up&#8212;is going to get very pressing with easily-searchable books like what Google Books provides. It&#8217;s now very easy for me, when writing a paper on, say, The Sims, to read almost every academic mention of The Sims&#8212;even ones that last a single paragraph, never mind a chapter.</p>
<p>I think it then becomes more important for those discussions to all be accurate, even avoiding errors that don&#8217;t impact the book&#8217;s own argument, because the authority of the author of the book will be cited for these individual propositions within the book. Previously any errors might be buried in a book that wasn&#8217;t even on the subject: maybe it&#8217;s not so important that a Sims example be exactly right in a book on architecture that just uses it as a passing illustration, so long as it&#8217;s right in the ways that are relevant for its use as an architecture example. But now it has to be right enough for the game-studies and AI audiences, too, since any errors will be more likely to be read by the audience you didn&#8217;t expect, either damaging the overall academic literature and debate as misinformation gets repeated, damaging the author&#8217;s reputation if it&#8217;s exposed as misinformation, or both. In fact, I recall your book itself exposed several such wrong-in-the-details examples from other authors&#8217; writing, of various levels of severity.</p>
<p>And I think, as you discuss, it&#8217;s hard to get that sort of cross-cutting feedback from traditional peer review, whether in journals, books, or conferences, because you would need too many reviewers (in your case, an expert on every system discussed, game-studies and digital-humanities experts, AI experts, game designers, etc.). So this is one model for how to get the details right&#8212; expose it to everyone, and hope people who know about the details point out problems before the book goes to press. I think there&#8217;s a good chance they will in many cases, at least if the authors themselves are alive and reachable: many people have a strong interest in learning how their work is being discussed by others, and would appreciate the opportunity to make corrections or clarifications before something that misrepresents their work gets published.</p>
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		<title>By: Planned Obsolescence &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog-Based Peer Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planned Obsolescence &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog-Based Peer Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wardrip-Fruin has posted a thoughtful reconsideration of the experience of putting the manuscript of his forthcoming book, Expressive Processing, through [...]</description>
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