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		<title>By: Grand Text Auto &#187; 10 Worst 10 Worst Lists of All Time</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2006/06/27/bottom-5-of-the-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-180371</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Text Auto &#187; 10 Worst 10 Worst Lists of All Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the worst of all, the worst of all time. With that in mind, and in the spirit of looking into the bottom 5% of user-created content, Grand Text Auto presents you with this list of the 10 worst lists of 10 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the worst of all, the worst of all time. With that in mind, and in the spirit of looking into the bottom 5% of user-created content, Grand Text Auto presents you with this list of the 10 worst lists of 10 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2006/06/27/bottom-5-of-the-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-107552</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, I saw that via Jill&#039;s blog a few days ago. I&#039;ll have to get to work on finding the Web 1.0 animated gif that corresponds to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, I saw that via Jill&#8217;s blog a few days ago. I&#8217;ll have to get to work on finding the Web 1.0 animated gif that corresponds to that.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Came across this video, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Web 2.0 - The Machine is Us/ing Us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. Currently making the rounds in the blogosphere. Great animated text treatment of the wonders (yuck yuck) of the 2.0 vision. Beautiful to watch actually. Just shows what you can stumble across when looking for videos of cats flushing toilets (which also seem to be sweeping the electronic landscape - my wife and I have received two copies of a cat flushing a toilet video in the last few days).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came across this video, <i><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE" rel="nofollow">Web 2.0 &#8211; The Machine is Us/ing Us</a></i>. Currently making the rounds in the blogosphere. Great animated text treatment of the wonders (yuck yuck) of the 2.0 vision. Beautiful to watch actually. Just shows what you can stumble across when looking for videos of cats flushing toilets (which also seem to be sweeping the electronic landscape &#8211; my wife and I have received two copies of a cat flushing a toilet video in the last few days).</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2006/06/27/bottom-5-of-the-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-87686</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I won&#039;t try to add explanatory links for all of my jokes, I guess I should mention, now that these things are 10 years old, that the title of my post here refers &lt;a href=&quot;http://tonkinresolutions.com/pointless/home.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to this,&lt;/a&gt; which refers &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/19971017143208/http://www.pointcom.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to this.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I won&#8217;t try to add explanatory links for all of my jokes, I guess I should mention, now that these things are 10 years old, that the title of my post here refers <a href="http://tonkinresolutions.com/pointless/home.html" rel="nofollow">to this,</a> which refers <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/19971017143208/http://www.pointcom.com/" rel="nofollow">to this.</a></p>
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		<title>By: B Rickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Rickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark seems to have fallen for the notion that technological advance == progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark seems to have fallen for the notion that technological advance == progress.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some of the changes are overblown.  &quot;Blogging&quot;, for example, has been around for about as long as the web has been around; it&#039;s only the word &quot;blog&quot; that is relatively new.  I remember reading Slashdot in 1996, and modern blogs have basically copied its format wholesale: reverse-chronological-order entries on a front page, extended bodies after you click, and a comments section.  Slashdot even has threaded discussions, something most blog software still hasn&#039;t implemented.  Sure, more people have blogs now than did in 1996, but that&#039;s partly simply due to more people being on the internet in the first place.

I do think collaborative editing (e.g. Wikipedia) is one major innovation in how the internet is used.

AJAX is quite possibly the worst part of &quot;Web 2.0&quot;, though.  In principle, it&#039;s a good idea: the network is the computer and all that; deploy applications using the web browser as the universal GUI.  AJAX is really pretty horrible as far as an implementation, though.  From the programmer&#039;s perspective, writing an entire application in JavaScript is just about the worst things possible, and from the user&#039;s perspective, you now need a 3 GHz machine and a gig of RAM just to run a simple application comparable to those that ran quickly 10 years ago.  Hell I can&#039;t even read dailykos.com anymore because their &quot;improved&quot; Javascript-heavy format lags my (not really that old) computer unbearably---and reading and posting comments to a text-based website is about the bare minimum you can imagine an application consisting of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of the changes are overblown.  &#8220;Blogging&#8221;, for example, has been around for about as long as the web has been around; it&#8217;s only the word &#8220;blog&#8221; that is relatively new.  I remember reading Slashdot in 1996, and modern blogs have basically copied its format wholesale: reverse-chronological-order entries on a front page, extended bodies after you click, and a comments section.  Slashdot even has threaded discussions, something most blog software still hasn&#8217;t implemented.  Sure, more people have blogs now than did in 1996, but that&#8217;s partly simply due to more people being on the internet in the first place.</p>
<p>I do think collaborative editing (e.g. Wikipedia) is one major innovation in how the internet is used.</p>
<p>AJAX is quite possibly the worst part of &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243;, though.  In principle, it&#8217;s a good idea: the network is the computer and all that; deploy applications using the web browser as the universal GUI.  AJAX is really pretty horrible as far as an implementation, though.  From the programmer&#8217;s perspective, writing an entire application in JavaScript is just about the worst things possible, and from the user&#8217;s perspective, you now need a 3 GHz machine and a gig of RAM just to run a simple application comparable to those that ran quickly 10 years ago.  Hell I can&#8217;t even read dailykos.com anymore because their &#8220;improved&#8221; Javascript-heavy format lags my (not really that old) computer unbearably&#8212;and reading and posting comments to a text-based website is about the bare minimum you can imagine an application consisting of.</p>
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