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		<title>By: Matt K.</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52754</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 22:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

On the way, actually . . .</description>
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<p>On the way, actually . . .</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52751</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kari, 

Thanks! I agree completely. Any way we could talk you and Matt into whipping up a story or two? We need some Maryland contagion in there.

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kari, </p>
<p>Thanks! I agree completely. Any way we could talk you and Matt into whipping up a story or two? We need some Maryland contagion in there.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: kari</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52409</link>
		<dc:creator>kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 13:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the CC license: I&#039;d just point out, too, the irony of imposing stringent DRM on a *contagious* media project.  Viral art demands an economy of proliferation, not of scarcity.  I see the CC license as of a piece with the larger theme.

Great contest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the CC license: I&#8217;d just point out, too, the irony of imposing stringent DRM on a *contagious* media project.  Viral art demands an economy of proliferation, not of scarcity.  I see the CC license as of a piece with the larger theme.</p>
<p>Great contest!</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52407</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 18:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedant, 

Forgive the reductio. But I can&#039;t see how a submission of a 60 second story in this competition isn&#039;t as good a form of &quot;career-building&quot; or &quot;exhibition&quot; as you could presently expect from any publication of a story in this form. Perhaps there will be a groundswell of interest in the form such that a market would exist for a bitpass, etc. system. For now though, I&#039;d rather see 60 second stories flowing around the internet unimpeded by market forces. And frankly, I think there is a connection between not creativity in general, but more specifically between encouraging the adoption and distribution of new narrative forms on the internet, and choosing alternatives to the current copyright regime. 

Having said that, if you&#039;ll write one, I&#039;d be happy to post a link to your story on the 60 second story site, with a note that it was not entered in the competition due to your objection to relinquishing copyright. That way, your work could be exhibited along with the others, though you would not win the chocolate. Have you created one, or are your objections purely theoretical?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedant, </p>
<p>Forgive the reductio. But I can&#8217;t see how a submission of a 60 second story in this competition isn&#8217;t as good a form of &#8220;career-building&#8221; or &#8220;exhibition&#8221; as you could presently expect from any publication of a story in this form. Perhaps there will be a groundswell of interest in the form such that a market would exist for a bitpass, etc. system. For now though, I&#8217;d rather see 60 second stories flowing around the internet unimpeded by market forces. And frankly, I think there is a connection between not creativity in general, but more specifically between encouraging the adoption and distribution of new narrative forms on the internet, and choosing alternatives to the current copyright regime. </p>
<p>Having said that, if you&#8217;ll write one, I&#8217;d be happy to post a link to your story on the 60 second story site, with a note that it was not entered in the competition due to your objection to relinquishing copyright. That way, your work could be exhibited along with the others, though you would not win the chocolate. Have you created one, or are your objections purely theoretical?</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52405</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 17:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noah, I don&#039;t know AP&#039;s reasons for anonymity, but someone who is thinking about entering a contest and wants to argue about the rules certainly should be able to do so on here anonymously.

fortunato, all right! More contagion.

Another Pedant, I didn&#039;t think Scott&#039;s reply was really that inappropriate, given your original questions. If you&#039;d now like to have a serious discussion, let&#039;s.

If I offer to take you to lunch and buy you a sandwich, I&#039;m not enforcing a sandwich on you. You can simply not go to lunch with me. This contest does not &quot;enforce&quot; a license on anyone. People can choose to enter or not. If they don&#039;t want to enter, they can still create 60-second stories and show them off somewhere else.

Many contests require that entries licensed in some way; usually it&#039;s in a restrictive way that gives the company hosting the content rights to things. This contest requires a license that makes work available to the public, a license that I think is good for many things, including one-minute videos taken on webcams of people telling stories.

If you dislike the CC licenses, discuss. But if you think that Scott setting the rules and terms of his contest in the way he believes is right (and my agreeing to judge a contest that has rules and conditions that I like) is somehow outrageous, I&#039;m not sure what more I can say to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah, I don&#8217;t know AP&#8217;s reasons for anonymity, but someone who is thinking about entering a contest and wants to argue about the rules certainly should be able to do so on here anonymously.</p>
<p>fortunato, all right! More contagion.</p>
<p>Another Pedant, I didn&#8217;t think Scott&#8217;s reply was really that inappropriate, given your original questions. If you&#8217;d now like to have a serious discussion, let&#8217;s.</p>
<p>If I offer to take you to lunch and buy you a sandwich, I&#8217;m not enforcing a sandwich on you. You can simply not go to lunch with me. This contest does not &#8220;enforce&#8221; a license on anyone. People can choose to enter or not. If they don&#8217;t want to enter, they can still create 60-second stories and show them off somewhere else.</p>
<p>Many contests require that entries licensed in some way; usually it&#8217;s in a restrictive way that gives the company hosting the content rights to things. This contest requires a license that makes work available to the public, a license that I think is good for many things, including one-minute videos taken on webcams of people telling stories.</p>
<p>If you dislike the CC licenses, discuss. But if you think that Scott setting the rules and terms of his contest in the way he believes is right (and my agreeing to judge a contest that has rules and conditions that I like) is somehow outrageous, I&#8217;m not sure what more I can say to that.</p>
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		<title>By: fortunato</title>
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		<dc:creator>fortunato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 16:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
I think is a neat idea, I find it just blissfull

We have an entry in the contest at http://bamboo.contagiousmedia.org/quiz/index.html , a first attempt, take a peek too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I think is a neat idea, I find it just blissfull</p>
<p>We have an entry in the contest at <a href="http://bamboo.contagiousmedia.org/quiz/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://bamboo.contagiousmedia.org/quiz/index.html</a> , a first attempt, take a peek too</p>
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		<title>By: noah</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52402</link>
		<dc:creator>noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 15:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Pedant - I&#039;m curious, why do you post this anonymously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Pedant &#8211; I&#8217;m curious, why do you post this anonymously?</p>
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		<title>By: Another Pedant</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52401</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Pedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 14:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question was meant as a provocation more than an objection. There seems to be an implicit and unspoken correlation between digital creativity and rights relinquising. Whether it is a good or a bad idea, this matter is due serious discussion rather than simplistic resign. 

Scott, your snide but expected conflation of rights, major presses, and DRM is a reductio ad absurdum. You know full well that there are actually many ways to manage &quot;interesting little stories,&quot; everything from bitpass to online exhibitions. It&#039;s not the matter of the money I would object to, but rather your requirement that participation in this competition with no reward, whether it be monetary, exhibition, or career-building, should have the right to enforce your own agenda on copyright politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question was meant as a provocation more than an objection. There seems to be an implicit and unspoken correlation between digital creativity and rights relinquising. Whether it is a good or a bad idea, this matter is due serious discussion rather than simplistic resign. </p>
<p>Scott, your snide but expected conflation of rights, major presses, and DRM is a reductio ad absurdum. You know full well that there are actually many ways to manage &#8220;interesting little stories,&#8221; everything from bitpass to online exhibitions. It&#8217;s not the matter of the money I would object to, but rather your requirement that participation in this competition with no reward, whether it be monetary, exhibition, or career-building, should have the right to enforce your own agenda on copyright politics.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52400</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 12:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because we need more stories in the Creative Commons too. If you&#039;re seriously worried about the royalties on your one minute fiction, I suggest you submit it directly to the major presses, the big boys, the Random Houses, the Bertelsmanns. It must be pretty hot. Get your agent on the cell.

The main idea here is to encourage people to create interesting little stories that they want to encourage other people to share, email, burn, whatever. We don&#039;t particularly want to get involved agonizing over DRM. The idea is to spread interesting stories, not lock them down. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because we need more stories in the Creative Commons too. If you&#8217;re seriously worried about the royalties on your one minute fiction, I suggest you submit it directly to the major presses, the big boys, the Random Houses, the Bertelsmanns. It must be pretty hot. Get your agent on the cell.</p>
<p>The main idea here is to encourage people to create interesting little stories that they want to encourage other people to share, email, burn, whatever. We don&#8217;t particularly want to get involved agonizing over DRM. The idea is to spread interesting stories, not lock them down.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Pedant</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52399</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Pedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 08:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently we also need more no-royalty stories too, huh? Why impose a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike on your entrants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently we also need more no-royalty stories too, huh? Why impose a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike on your entrants?</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52398</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 04:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s okay. We need more pedants in our lives, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s okay. We need more pedants in our lives, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52397</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 04:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway, it sounds like a neat contest, I&#039;m just being pedantic and nitpicky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, it sounds like a neat contest, I&#8217;m just being pedantic and nitpicky.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2005/05/19/announcing-the-60-second-story-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-52396</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 04:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we need more stories in our lives?  Don&#039;t we already have ample access to movies, games, books, television, magazines, newspaper, webjournals and flash, theater, puppet shories, storytelling, and mime?  Oh, and conversation.

I can see why we might want more stories in our lives, or better stories, or more interesting stories, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need more stories in our lives?  Don&#8217;t we already have ample access to movies, games, books, television, magazines, newspaper, webjournals and flash, theater, puppet shories, storytelling, and mime?  Oh, and conversation.</p>
<p>I can see why we might want more stories in our lives, or better stories, or more interesting stories, etc.</p>
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