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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terra Nova has &lt;a href=&quot;http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2004/09/ye_olde_discipl.html&quot;&gt;begun snacking&lt;/a&gt; on the can of worms recently re-opened by &lt;a href=&quot;http://ludology.org/article.php?story=20040907012906704&quot;&gt;Julian Kucklich&#039;s critique&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;i&gt;First Person&lt;/i&gt; on EBR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terra Nova has <a href="http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2004/09/ye_olde_discipl.html">begun snacking</a> on the can of worms recently re-opened by <a href="http://ludology.org/article.php?story=20040907012906704">Julian Kucklich&#8217;s critique</a> of <i>First Person</i> on EBR.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m heading out the door to have Thanksgiving at the &quot;source&quot; &#8212; Plymouth, MA.  I&#039;m already late for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.puddingbench.com/uaine.htm&quot;&gt;festivities&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m heading out the door to have Thanksgiving at the &#8220;source&#8221; &mdash; Plymouth, MA.  I&#8217;m already late for the <a href="http://www.puddingbench.com/uaine.htm">festivities</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzalo Frasca</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Gonzalo Frasca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything I had to say was written on that paper. Thankfully, I won&#039;t fight eternally. Happy Thanksgiving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything I had to say was written on that paper. Thankfully, I won&#8217;t fight eternally. Happy Thanksgiving!</p>
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		<title>By: B. Rickman</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Rickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I have come across the term &quot;ludology&quot;.  Who came up with such a terrible term?  Every time I read it I think it means &quot;the study of lud[d]ism&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I have come across the term &#8220;ludology&#8221;.  Who came up with such a terrible term?  Every time I read it I think it means &#8220;the study of lud[d]ism&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonzalo answers that question in &lt;a href=&quot;http://ludology.org/articles/Frasca_LevelUp2003.pdf&quot;&gt;his paper [PDF].&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzalo answers that question in <a href="http://ludology.org/articles/Frasca_LevelUp2003.pdf">his paper [PDF].</a></p>
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		<title>By: B. Rickman</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Rickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t answer my implied question, which was: why &lt;i&gt;lud&lt;/i&gt;ology?  Does the stem &quot;lud&quot; refer to anything?  The fourth son of Shem?  LUD is the airport code for Luderitz, Namibia.  Ludo appears to be a board game of British origins.  Ludology seems to be little more than a private joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t answer my implied question, which was: why <i>lud</i>ology?  Does the stem &#8220;lud&#8221; refer to anything?  The fourth son of Shem?  LUD is the airport code for Luderitz, Namibia.  Ludo appears to be a board game of British origins.  Ludology seems to be little more than a private joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Lud Lud</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>Lud Lud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to answer your implied question: ludus means game in latin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to answer your implied question: ludus means game in latin.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Rickman</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Rickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latin... of course.  The ultimate private joke.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latin&#8230; of course.  The ultimate private joke.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: noah</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In English, the more commonly-used form is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartleby.com/61/20/L0282000.html&quot;&gt;ludic.&lt;/a&gt;



See, for example, Warren Motte&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://unp.unl.edu/bookinfo/2849.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Playtexts: Ludics in Contemporary Literature.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In English, the more commonly-used form is <a href="http://www.bartleby.com/61/20/L0282000.html">ludic.</a></p>
<p>See, for example, Warren Motte&#8217;s <a href="http://unp.unl.edu/bookinfo/2849.html"><i>Playtexts: Ludics in Contemporary Literature.</i></a></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Jesper&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://jesperjuul.dk/ludologist/index.php?p=66&quot;&gt;latest comments&lt;/a&gt; on the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Jesper&#8217;s <a href="http://jesperjuul.dk/ludologist/index.php?p=66">latest comments</a> on the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew G. Kirschenbaum</title>
		<link>http://grandtextauto.org/2003/11/27/ludology-vs-narratology-they-will-fight-eternally/comment-page-1/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew G. Kirschenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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